April 26, 2005
Yahoo’s New Personalization
Yahoo has just launched Yahoo MyWeb which adds search history (like google’s) but adds the social aspect of it by allowing you to also save searches, syndicate them using RSS, and they’re even experimenting with AttentionXML…and, as is standard with Yahoo these days, there is an API (woohoo!).
Well, as usual, I decided to try it out. I logged in and turned on search history…but when I went into myweb after conducting a number of searches, I had a message that there was noting in my history! So I decided to try out the saving…but from the search pages, I could not find any links asking me to save those results. I read that when I do save, I get a snapshot of exactly the way it looks at that time…not just saving alink that takes me back to the current search with the query I searched for (which brings up a question of how far within the results are actually saved…so if I had millions of results, how much are cached?).
Anyway, I played around for a while and clicked on web sites within the results pages and went back…apparently, my search page isn’t saved in the history…just the items I clicked on. Then, I searched the page for “Save” and realized that I can’t save the search…I am just saving results within the search (same as the history). The problem is how do I know if I want to save an item until after I have already clicked on it, examined it, and had already left Yahoo…that’s the purpose of bookmarking through the browser’s tools…but, according to their information, Yahoo states they added functionality to their Yahoo toolbar (but I haven’t tested or seen what it does).
While this may be an interesting utility, it is more of a bookmark/del.icio.us list rather than a search tool. I originally was wondering why I would want to import bookmarks or how that would be integrated when I read it on their site…but now that I understand how that works, it makes sense.
I also have the ability to block a result…but doing so just doesn’t show it in the results on the page it is supposed to be…but there is essentially a placeholder for it because when I search again, I see results number up to 9 out of the 36MM results for my search with a message at the bottom that an item is blocked from that page.
I really wish they allowed me to save searches and maintain history of the searches. Especially if they tied this in with all of their properties (my searches for local, video, searches in my mails, etc). I currently do not see any tie-in to any of the other properties other than their main/algorithmic search.
If these features do exist, then their UI is not very intuitive or I might have caught them in the middle of the release (since I just came across it right now) but I doubt it. If saving searches did exist, the ability to file them and organize them would be very useful.








emad said,
April 28, 2005 @ 7:47 am
I’ve been playing with this some more and noted a few things…
1) when you click to save an entry, a hidden layer shows up asking you to choose a folder to save it into and, once completed, you never leave the page (looks like some more javascript voodoo).
2. There is some sort of lag (potentially, in a load-balanced environment, this may be due to multi-way replication…a challenge we also faced at citysearch when releasing Saved Pages, our personalization section that saved/bookmarked your search items and lists…but we never released the saving of searches). When I log in after saving, I get a message that states “Sorry, saved pages are currently not available. Please try again.” … and my History is always behind. Lag seems to be 10-15 minutes for me (which is where we were at when we first started but got much faster as we improved our systems). This might also just be a bug…I was saving into the standard “Saved” folder but see below.
3. Saving into a new folder had the following effect: I was prompted with a javascript entry to enter a folder name after I clicked “Save.” I then had to click “Save” again after the folder was created…but when I clicked on the new folder that it was saved in from the search results, I was taken directly to that folder with the item in it! No lag time! However, “My Saved Copy” (the cached version of the page) doesn’t show up anywhere between 30 seconds to 10 minutes later.
I suppose I could spend more time to figure it out…but no time right now…perhaps they are replicating data and force you to the correct datacenter/data collection when you click on the new folder since they know you need the info immediately but, when you go through the “my web” home page, you may not be looking for that info immediately.
4. There are no entries in your logs when “My Saved Copy” is clicked on…in other words, the page is entirely cached on Yahoo’s servers and content providers will never know their page is viewed. The Saved Copy pages simply call a javascript which doesa few huge document.writes. Somehow, the google ads have also disappeared from the page (unlike Yahoo regular cached copy pages). So, if you’re a content-provider, you not only lose out on the traffic counts, but you lose out on the potential revenue that goes with it.
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